WIP [Icons] Weapons (64x64)

[metouto]

Starting to make weapons for terasology ....
weapon axe

Unless someone knows why I should not I will be making them with transparent background and at the size of 64x64. Now, feel free to put your two cents in here if you think they are to big or if you think they need reworked for some reason.

 

[Esereja]

axe looks nice and "every" image is scalable. tough result is not necesary best if scaled.

 

[metouto]

not sure Esereja what you mean by "..... image is scalable. tough result is not necesary best if scaled." .... could you explain a little more for me .... Thanks

 

[Esereja]

sry for being so confusing. I meant that you can scale images to be bigger or smaller, but result of scaling isn't as good as if image was orginaly made for resolution that was needed.

 

[Cervator]

In other words making an axe at 64x64 and relying on the game to shrink it to 32x32 if needed is not as reliable as making both a 64x64 as well as a 32x32

 

[Esereja]

Thank you for translation of my thoughts

 

[Skaldarnar]

First: I've updated the thread title to use a prefix and labeled it with [Icons], renamed it to show the icons size... maybe somewhat random naming convention, but we have to start somewhere

Second: Here are some suggestions for weapons I found on one of my TODO lists. Possible use is in Wood and Stone later on (or any other module that uses somewhat crude combat methods).

• wooden spear - a crude spear with a pointy end
• stone spear - improved spear with sharp stone tip
• wooden arrow/simple arrow - simple/crude wooden arrow, not too elaborated
• stone arrow/crude arrow - crude arrows, not too fancy as well. Maybe two versions, like the two spear versions
• wooden club - maybe the most primitve weapon you can think of after a simple stone
• stone sling - probably the first weapon used for distance combat?

As you may have noticed, all these are dated to stone age (roughly). Other weapon proposals are the well-known candidates, manufactured from different materials (copper, bronze, iron, steel, ...):

• Sword
• Axe
• Hammer
• Bow
• Crossbow

 

[metouto]

Of the above items .... how many have been done? What size do they need to be made at? Can They be made in Gimp and still be good enough for terasology use? What different materials do they need to be made out of (wooden; stone; copper; bronze; iron; and steel are mentioned )?

Forgive my lack of knowledge I have been away for a year or more and don't know what have been done

 

[Cervator]

Well, we made a shovel. That's about it. Yep, been a productive year without you!

Throughout the Ages has a hammer / hammer-axe thing. But it probably doesn't hurt to have a few options.

Edit: Oh, materials @Josharias might be able to address, he's doing some magic to make the same thing in different substances. I think Gimp and 64x64 is fine, we can shrink down fairly easily if needed.

 

[Skaldarnar]

Hi @metouto - welcome back!

Gimp is perfectly fine for this kind of pixel art - you could even use MS Paint, although Gimp or PS make things a lot easier. From the items above, probably none was addressed yet (since we still don't have working combat ).

I did a bunch of item icons for TtA which you can find in the WaS repo and the CaB repo. You can take some inspiration from theme - and probably you should take color samples to match the tones for the specific materials (if you want to go in a similar artistic direction).

Sometimes you can even do pixel art from photos (if you find a good one, though )

 

[Josharias]

I would also mention that having the tip of the weapon in the top right corner (as apposed to the top-left like the war-axe) works better when holding the item in first person view.

Also, layering and re-tinting icons from various parts is easy now with ItemRendering's (a module) tint overlay system. (right. I should put some documentation in the readme about that sometime soon)

 

[Skaldarnar]

I would also mention that having the tip of the weapon in the top right corner (as apposed to the top-left like the war-axe) works better when holding the item in first person view.

Also, layering and re-tinting icons from various parts is easy now with ItemRendering's (a module) tint overlay system. (right. I should put some documentation in the readme about that sometime soon)

Does that allow for dirt and blood stains, magic effects, rust, ... I'm a bit excited right now, so many possibilities

 

[metouto]

@Skaldarnar, @Josharias, @Cervator .... it will be a while (a few days) before I get set up to doing some work but would it step on anyone's toes if I were to try my hand at the things talked about in #7 post by Skaldarnar ?

Or

If someone has a different "artsy" thing they would like me to try my hand at to help others out I would be most happy to try & help them.

Just remember ..... I was a ...... "try the best I could"...... when I was here last; but I tried almost anything that people thought I could for them. I have not done anything in a long time so "basic" and "easy" might be inline to start off with.

I will leave it up to you all to see where I would fit in best

 

[metouto]

I would also mention that having the tip of the weapon in the top right corner (as apposed to the top-left like the war-axe) works better when holding the item in first person view.

Also, layering and re-tinting icons from various parts is easy now with ItemRendering's (a module) tint overlay system. (right. I should put some documentation in the readme about that sometime soon)

Thanks for the above tips Josharias ..... I would have never thought about how to angle a weapon as to how it would look in first person view

Let me also know when you get to the documentation thing because I am sure that would be a help to me also

 

[Josharias]

Not sure about magic effects, but yes to the rest.

For an example, look for "TintOverlayIcon" in the following prefab. This one is using the dotted syntax for using a texture atlas with some extra tinting parameters.

https://github.com/Terasology/ManualLabor/blob/master/assets/prefabs/tools/Shovel.prefab

 

[metouto]

WOW Josharias ...... that was way above my ability to understand but don't give up on me Did I say I know nothing about coding